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		<title>By: Ben Stroup</title>
		<link>http://benstroup.com/2010/02/08/is-your-church-giving-being-impacted-by-haiti/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, excellent thoughts. I really like what you wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Writing a check must draw us deeper into our relationship with Haitians and with the God who permits their suffering and commands our response. Our response to that God and these Haitians must always be more than writing a check.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Giving is first a spiritual issue, not a financial one.

Blessings, Ben.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, excellent thoughts. I really like what you wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Writing a check must draw us deeper into our relationship with Haitians and with the God who permits their suffering and commands our response. Our response to that God and these Haitians must always be more than writing a check.</p></blockquote>
<p>Giving is first a spiritual issue, not a financial one.</p>
<p>Blessings, Ben.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Stroup</title>
		<link>http://benstroup.com/2010/02/08/is-your-church-giving-being-impacted-by-haiti/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I agree that &quot;much of [the money given to Haiti] comes from individuals who don&#039;t give to a church.&quot; Though we can&#039;t be sure, I think it&#039;s very possible that a significant amount of the money given has come through communities of faith and/or churches. The goal of the parallel is to point out even in a time when some churches are seeing a decline in giving, there has been a surge of nearly a billion dollars given to Haiti in three weeks time.

I simply want to bring to light that there is always room to increase giving. Most people are not currently giving at their full capacity. That being the case, how can we as church leaders challenge them to practice reckless generosity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I agree that &#8220;much of [the money given to Haiti] comes from individuals who don&#8217;t give to a church.&#8221; Though we can&#8217;t be sure, I think it&#8217;s very possible that a significant amount of the money given has come through communities of faith and/or churches. The goal of the parallel is to point out even in a time when some churches are seeing a decline in giving, there has been a surge of nearly a billion dollars given to Haiti in three weeks time.</p>
<p>I simply want to bring to light that there is always room to increase giving. Most people are not currently giving at their full capacity. That being the case, how can we as church leaders challenge them to practice reckless generosity?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Stroup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Stroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Anne. I appreciate your feedback and encouragement. I am working with a designer on some other issues and will add this to the list.

Keep reading. Blessings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Anne. I appreciate your feedback and encouragement. I am working with a designer on some other issues and will add this to the list.</p>
<p>Keep reading. Blessings!</p>
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		<title>By: EFoley</title>
		<link>http://benstroup.com/2010/02/08/is-your-church-giving-being-impacted-by-haiti/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>EFoley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question, Ben--and thanks for noting my post.

A few comments about the Haiti situation especially as it relates to churches:

Churches tend to see two possible categories of response when it comes to Haiti. On the one hand, respond directly by creating a program (e.g., gather relief supplies or plan a mission trip through a church contact). On the other hand, take an offering to give to an organization that is responding directly.

Either hand presents challenges.

As Baptist churches in Idaho will tell you, intervening directly is fraught with difficulties. We can mean well and yet still end up with trauma (or at least lots of leftover toothpaste when it turns out no one wants what we collected).

But taking offerings for other people to do ministry loses its appeal after special offering #10 or 11 in a given year. Congregants grant that each cause is worthy, but they resent the seemingly never-ending flood of requests from the never-ending flood of worthy causes.

Truth is, these two choices hardly exhaust the church&#039;s possible repertoire. They represent a diminished creativity of response.

As you note in your book and your blog, Ben, churches hold a distinct advantage over nonprofits  because of their frequency of gathering. And a key element of this advantage goes well beyond churches&#039; ability to ask congregants&#039; more frequently for money. (That can actually be a disadvantage--a kind of compassion fatigue.)

Instead, the frequency of gathering can correlate to a comprehensiveness of response. We can--and should--do more than write a check. If writing a check provides an exit from consideration of the disaster (which, unfortunately, is exactly what it has done and always does for so many folks), then writing a check is exactly the wrong response.

Writing a check must draw us deeper into our relationship with Haitians and with the God who permits their suffering and commands our response. Our response to that God and these Haitians must always be more than writing a check.

In this vein, Jon Hirst of .W, author of the Generous Minds blog, wrote a Haiti Family Action Plan, the prayer portion of which I cited on my blog at http://ericfoley.com/2010/01/22/a-transformational-response-to-tragedy-and-crisis-part-iv-a-gift-to-remember-not-forget/ .

Jon wrote the plan for his family&#039;s own comprehensive response to the disaster, but I think it works equally well for a church. He&#039;s happy to share the whole plan for free, of course--just email him at jhirst@dotheword.org.

Keep up the good work, Ben!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question, Ben&#8211;and thanks for noting my post.</p>
<p>A few comments about the Haiti situation especially as it relates to churches:</p>
<p>Churches tend to see two possible categories of response when it comes to Haiti. On the one hand, respond directly by creating a program (e.g., gather relief supplies or plan a mission trip through a church contact). On the other hand, take an offering to give to an organization that is responding directly.</p>
<p>Either hand presents challenges.</p>
<p>As Baptist churches in Idaho will tell you, intervening directly is fraught with difficulties. We can mean well and yet still end up with trauma (or at least lots of leftover toothpaste when it turns out no one wants what we collected).</p>
<p>But taking offerings for other people to do ministry loses its appeal after special offering #10 or 11 in a given year. Congregants grant that each cause is worthy, but they resent the seemingly never-ending flood of requests from the never-ending flood of worthy causes.</p>
<p>Truth is, these two choices hardly exhaust the church&#8217;s possible repertoire. They represent a diminished creativity of response.</p>
<p>As you note in your book and your blog, Ben, churches hold a distinct advantage over nonprofits  because of their frequency of gathering. And a key element of this advantage goes well beyond churches&#8217; ability to ask congregants&#8217; more frequently for money. (That can actually be a disadvantage&#8211;a kind of compassion fatigue.)</p>
<p>Instead, the frequency of gathering can correlate to a comprehensiveness of response. We can&#8211;and should&#8211;do more than write a check. If writing a check provides an exit from consideration of the disaster (which, unfortunately, is exactly what it has done and always does for so many folks), then writing a check is exactly the wrong response.</p>
<p>Writing a check must draw us deeper into our relationship with Haitians and with the God who permits their suffering and commands our response. Our response to that God and these Haitians must always be more than writing a check.</p>
<p>In this vein, Jon Hirst of .W, author of the Generous Minds blog, wrote a Haiti Family Action Plan, the prayer portion of which I cited on my blog at <a href="http://ericfoley.com/2010/01/22/a-transformational-response-to-tragedy-and-crisis-part-iv-a-gift-to-remember-not-forget/" rel="nofollow">http://ericfoley.com/2010/01/22/a-transformational-response-to-tragedy-and-crisis-part-iv-a-gift-to-remember-not-forget/</a> .</p>
<p>Jon wrote the plan for his family&#8217;s own comprehensive response to the disaster, but I think it works equally well for a church. He&#8217;s happy to share the whole plan for free, of course&#8211;just email him at <a href="mailto:jhirst@dotheword.org">jhirst@dotheword.org</a>.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work, Ben!</p>
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		<title>By: hfreeman17</title>
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		<dc:creator>hfreeman17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure the comparison of giving to Haiti and giving to churches is valid/important.  Haiti donations are 0.5% of total giving to churches, and if you were quoting the total pledged/given to Haiti, even if it rises, much of it comes from individuals who don&#039;t give to a church or house of worship.  For me to give even 1% more to Haiti than I give to my church doesn&#039;t hurt my budget in the least.  I simply don&#039;t go out on a date with my wife next week; we stay in and watch something off Netflix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure the comparison of giving to Haiti and giving to churches is valid/important.  Haiti donations are 0.5% of total giving to churches, and if you were quoting the total pledged/given to Haiti, even if it rises, much of it comes from individuals who don&#8217;t give to a church or house of worship.  For me to give even 1% more to Haiti than I give to my church doesn&#8217;t hurt my budget in the least.  I simply don&#8217;t go out on a date with my wife next week; we stay in and watch something off Netflix.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Senft</title>
		<link>http://benstroup.com/2010/02/08/is-your-church-giving-being-impacted-by-haiti/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Senft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben - You have some great content here!  Would you consider changing the color combo on your blog so your entries are easier to read?  Many folks on church finance committees (who desperately need your help) are older and might have trouble reading your advice.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211; You have some great content here!  Would you consider changing the color combo on your blog so your entries are easier to read?  Many folks on church finance committees (who desperately need your help) are older and might have trouble reading your advice.  Thanks!</p>
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